Wellness Revolutionaries | Igniting Confidence Through Action with Sadie Nardini
In this episode of Wellness Revolutionaries, Blake interviews life stylist, wellness expert, and founder of Core Strength Vinyasa Yoga and Yoga Shred, Sadie Nardini. Unapologetically herself, Sadie opens up about her past, the "Divine Feminine", and how she turned her inner knowledge into action to, ultimately, change her life.
Meet Sadie Nardini [05:55]
Interview with Sadie Nardini [07:34]
A revolutionary yogi [08:41]
Turning knowledge into action [12:24]
Sadie’s style of yoga [19:44]
The divine feminine [22:39]
Reframing the past [34:39]
Enhancing the relationship with oneself [38:21]
Right where she’s supposed to be [44:22]
“Quit your bitchin’ and start a revolution” [47:05]
Closing remarks [50:18]
Blake: [00:00:01] For women looking to step more fully into their own power, the Mohawk wearing Wellness Revolutionary I talked to today is a supercharged example of what that can look and sound like.
Sadie: [00:00:13] I can be fierce. I can be straightforward and clear and I can empower women especially leading by example what it means to be a free woman, what it means to do and be who I am and what I am unapologetically and what I stand for is taking the actions that feel right to you and not listening to all the voices around you tell you why you shouldn't, especially the ones inside.
Blake: [00:00:57] Welcome to Wellness Revolutionaries, the podcast that shines a light on the leaders of the Wellness Revolution. I'm talking about the inspiring women and men focused on building a culture of wellness in America. I'm Blake Beltram, MINDBODY Co-founder and Evangelist and your host, tour guide, and your companion on this journey toward a healthier, happier us. If you are one of the hundreds of thousands of Sadie Nardini fans you know you're in for a treat today with this show and if you don't know Sadie yet, well, you're in for a treat because she is one of the unique and powerful voices and action heroes of our day when it comes to the Wellness Revolution and in concert with the message you will hear from Saide, I want to make this episode very personal. I want to make this about you. The name of this podcast is Wellness Revolutionaries and if you've listened in at all, and I hope you have, you know by now the mission of this show is basically two-fold. First, it's to frame the context of and tell the story of what we call the Wellness Revolution. And second, it's to bring together the leaders and that's the thought leaders, yes, but it's also the action leaders not just those that are thinking about it and talking about it, but those who are taking action and adding real fuel to the Wellness Revolution--people like Sadie Nardini. It's about bringing those leaders together because this movement is happening. I've been watching it rise up for years. I've been lucky enough to be a part of it. The movement is happening on the planet but it's largely unformed in that there's not really a cohesive shape to it. It's a bit all over the place. So this program is about helping to shape the conversation, articulate the story of this cultural revolution that is taking place, and to give a microphone to those leading it and to stimulate you to think about your part in it. So my personal question to you is this: What is your part in it? Do you consider yourself a part of the Wellness Revolution? Do you consider yourself a leader in it? How do you know? Well,here's how you know. I would argue that anyone committed to self-awareness and up-leveling their life around the seven dimensions of wellness--physical, emotional, spiritual, intellectual, occupational, environmental, and social--anyone actively involved in awareness and up-leveling their life in these dimensions is participating in the Wellness Revolution. So how do you know if you're a leader? Wel, if you are committed to, or undeniably drawn to, helping others up-level their life, in one or more of those seven dimensions of wellness, you are a Wellness Revolutionary. You're actually helping to lead this movement and it's important for you to know that and to recognize it and to celebrate it. While, at the same time, it's also important for you to take responsibility for what it means to be a leader, to step fully into it, and find like-minded and like-purpose people who are in it with you and take action to make the difference you know in your soul you were put here to make. Do you feel like you're called to be a leader in this Wellness Revolution but maybe you're struggling a little bit? Maybe you feel alone or not fully supported. Maybe your friends and family are full of doubt about you. Maybe you are full of doubt about you or you feel like you're too busy trying to overcome your own crap, your own limitations to truly help and lead others and maybe that old crap is in the form of demons from your past or current addictions or your own health challenges, mental or physical. Maybe stepping into a leadership role in your own life feels a bit overwhelming. Maybe even a bit scary. Well I've got news for you. That is how it feels. That's what it feels like. You're never going to feel 100% prepared or 100% supported or even 100% qualified. I don't know of anyone that succeeded that felt that way. It's not about that, it's about an internal knowing that you're being called in a direction in your life. You're being driven to step into it and it's about stepping into it through the fire of whatever fears and doubts you might have. It's almost as if that's the first test of leadership. Can you have some flaws and some fears and go for it anyway? Are you living or at least working towards the best version of yourself? Are you living your life and leading by example? Well my guest today is a prime example of this.
[00:05:55] Sadie Nardini broke her neck and she was told by doctors she'd never walk or run again. She's been in abusive relationships. She's struggled with eating disorders. This is not a woman who's had it easy. This is a woman who persevered, who found her strength, and today she has followers that number in the hundreds of thousands. She's taught all over the world. She's billed as a life stylist, ultimate wellness expert, and she's the founder of Core Strength Vinyasa Yoga and Yoga Shred, which you may have heard of. And, oh, by the way, she's also the lead singer in a rock band, Sadie & The Tribe. What I find so interesting is there's the workout- guru side of Sadie with her 20-minute Yoga Shred HIIT workouts and then there's the spiritual practitioner and teacher side of Sadie. So there's a very specific life philosophy that underpins her success and everything she does and I think her message should be particularly inspiring to women who have stepped into or are stepping into their real power. So, as you listen to the show today, I want you to take it very personally. I want you to apply what you're hearing to your own life and challenge yourself and at the end of the interview stick around because I'm going to ask you three simple questions to help you get clear on how this applies to you. So here's my conversation with wellness expert, rock star yoga teacher, social media influencer, and, well, a woman who despite all those descriptors largely defies description: Sadie Nardini.
Blake: [00:07:43] Hello Sadie Nardini. It's so great being here with you at your place in Santa Barbara.
Sadie: [00:07:49] I was really excited for you to come I even put out the selenite and the candles.
Blake: [00:07:52] You put out the selenite.
Sadie: [00:07:54] Clear the energy, look at this angel stone is here on the table.
Blake: [00:07:56] I noticed that. What does the selenite do?
Sadie: [00:07:58] It's said to be the angel stone and it just absolutely clears out any negative energy and attracts only positive energy. It's like Palo Santo or sage.
Blake: [00:08:07] Well to set the scene here. We are at Sadie and James place in Santa Barbara up in the hills. I have the view of the ocean here I'm looking out in the Santa Barbara Bay which is just stunning on a day like today. It's so good to see you and be with you. I know you and I just kind of connected right off the bat. I think the first time that we met we were doing a BOLD Tour in San Francisco and I got up and kind of did a little kick off and talked about the Wellness Revolution and this movement that's happening in the world and I think you just energetically resonate with that and we I think we realize that you and I are on the same team right off the bat.
Sadie: [00:08:41] Oh yeah. Did you see my eyes light up when you said Wellness Revolution?
Blake: [00:08:44] Yes.
Sadie: [00:08:45] I've got that fierceness in me, you know, that Joan of Arc fierceness and I love this idea of kind of fighting the good fight and moving forward and getting out your bow and arrow and shooting flowers and just doing something fierce but healing.
Blake: [00:09:00] Fierce but healing.
Sadie: [00:09:01] Those are my balance points. So I loved that you were talking about it not as just a wellness group hug or cuddle puddle you know. For me that doesn't work as well as revolution.
Blake: [00:09:10] Yes.
Sadie: [00:09:10] Like let's do something major and radical and let's really change things.
Blake: [00:09:15] And this is what I love about you. You have a revolutionary look, first of all. So you have this sort of when you think of yoga you usually think of somebody in Lotus pose meditating or doing something. Sadie has a blonde mohawk, she's got kind of a badass look about her and she is a bad-ass. So you approach this from a completely different way. But the heart underneath it is exactly the same. It's really a heart-centered practice that you're engaged in and a heart-centered movement that you're leading.
Sadie: [00:09:42] It really is. And I realized a long time ago that in order to light the heart you don't look from the outside and for people to adore you or people to pay attention to you or some bartender to think you're hot, although, you know, it's nice. But the real bonfire comes from your core relationship with yourself. So I work in really two places and the first one always has to be the core relationship: the route, the belly, the sacrum, how we nourish ourselves, how we circle back inside and connect to who we really are our truth and then that fire lights up and starts to move up into the heart where you can begin to receive love in the way that's actually nourishing for you but also give love to the world through action that has to come from that fire being very stoked. Otherwise, you'll burn out. You won't have the fire to have enough courage to do what needs to be done and risk disappointing people. I mean the revolution is not for everyone but those who join it are the tribe and we're going to talk a lot about this, I know, but that's really my main teaching in life is, well, it's great to look out at the world and want it to be better and want people to come to you in the right way and all that and find your tribe. But who are you within, between you and yourself? Because that's the revolution, that's the primary revolution, and a lot of people just kind of gloss that over in favor of looking outward and trying to like change other people or get them to do something differently. But it really starts at that core.
Blake: [00:11:05] That's so true. You know sometimes I see movements and sometimes I agree maybe with the perspective of a certain side and yet they're coming at it with the same look in their eyes as the people on the other side. So, if you're fighting, whether you're in the right or in the wrong, you're still fighting.
Sadie: [00:11:24] Yes and it's fighting against something is just so much harder than fighting for what you truly believe in and being that or becoming that if you need to. Right now, without delay, without other people giving you permission, without the stars aligning, without there being exactly enough money in the bank, or are you feeling 100% confident in what you're doing. But to just begin you know is the real revolution. Most people think and talk about this stuff all day long and it's nowhere do we talk about it more than in yoga studios and wellness classes and meditation and online, you know, things that we do and we we learn and we talk and we reflect and there's so much inner meditation and knowledge and then we realize things and 90% of the time it doesn't move into action and action is the revolution. That's where the revolution begins. We think it begins with our inner knowledge while most of us can access that pretty easily kind of know what you know. Doing something about it though and taking a step is very difficult.
Blake: [00:12:24] And what do you mean? So there's the inner knowledge and then there's turning that into action. Can you give me an example of what you mean by that? Are you talking about people that are in leadership roles or are you talking about anyone in their life turning that into action?
Sadie: [00:12:36] Yeah, I'm talking about anyone who might be listening to this, all human beings, you know, here's an example out of so many I could choose. Let's say that I'm a woman who's in a toxic relationship with an addict. He's addicted to alcohol. He blames the world. He blames me. He's been very hurt as a child and abused and I, as a wellness practitioner, as a yogi, as a woman with a huge heart, as a nurturer and a natural healing practitioner, wants to save him, wants to help him, and I empathize, I understand where he's coming from. So, in order to understand myself, I would have to leave that relationship because true self-nourishment and true alignment would not include me staying in that relationship. He's not changing he wants to. He said it for years and I'm miserable and I'm in pain watching him be in pain and ultimately I've got to look inside. I've got to ask myself: Who do you need to be in this world? What is nourishment? What is health to you? What is fullness to you? What is healthy core relationship between you and yourself? Are you functional? Are you dysfunctional? And if I am over giving if I'm over carrying over a compassionate that actually means that I'm enabling. And obviously, this example has so much detail you can tell it's coming from my life.,
Blake: [00:13:51] I was going to ask you, it sounds like you have some personal experience.
Sadie: [00:13:54] Absolutely.
Blake: [00:13:55] And a lot of us do.
Sadie: [00:13:55] Yeah, I did this for ten years while struggling to go out and teach a yoga class about health, about alignment, about not putting up with abuse, about not putting up with other people's inability to do their work.
Blake: [00:14:09] So you were teaching what you really most needed to learn.
Sadie: [00:14:11] I was, but I wasn't moving toward it. I was talking about it. And the moment that I realized, I'm a hypocrite right now. I'm being a spiritual hypocrite. I'm talking about all this great stuff and oh, you know, and telling these women to move away from their abusive partners or, you know, you can only help someone so much, you can't drag people into the light and it might not be their path at all and I knew that and I was talking about it every single day and then I was going home to an addict again. Someone who wasn't nice to me most of the time, especially when drinking. Someone who blamed the world and never took responsibility. Who would not go to therapy, who would not move in any meaningful way but if I threatened to leave, he'd stop a little bit, kind of, and then it would start creeping back in. And I was just going through a cycle of pain and suffering and despair and I realized if I was going to walk my walk and not just talk my walk and I needed to make a big change. And the moment, and I'm not even kidding you, the literal moment I walked out that door, I got a call from a huge conference that I'd been trying to get into for years and of course blocked and the money situation, blocked, and my happiness, blocked, and my own health was blocked. I got an invitation that day to move to a huge new level and it never stopped after that and I never went back to dysfunctional outer relationships because what changed in that moment was not him, it was me and the way that I was going to choose to relate to myself to care for myself.
Blake: [00:15:37] It really wasn't about him at all. It was about you and the choices you were making.
Sadie: [00:15:40] But if I realized that and never left then the universe knows I'm full of ish, you know, that I'm just talking, talking, talking. But the action is the thing that starts to create that real alchemy.
Blake: [00:15:51] And that's the action you're talking about. And that's really the core of everything. We talk about the Wellness Revolution and this big macro change, it's really a billion micro changes, isn't it? It's a billion people making the choice to leave that toxic relationship or whatever it is in their life that's holding them back from being the brightest version of themselves that they can be.
Sadie: [00:16:09] In fact it's written in this Moleskin journal right here, exactly what you said, that's what I wanted to talk about most today because when we talk about the community or a wellness revolution, it's exactly like a crow pose. A crow pose is not a thing that can just happen, if you haven't noticed. I can't say, "Crow pose, now, fly, crow pose." You have to do a few things first in order for crow pose to be the outcome of that. Right? You have to ground into your foundation and you have to setup your geometry and work with physics and Mother Nature. You have to draw into your core. You have to slide and float the heart forward in a courageous action, that is built from faith and not knowing if you're going to faceplant on the ground, which by the way, you won't if you just keep your chin lifted. But crow pose happens as an outcome of a bunch of conscious actions that happen directly before crow pose and then maybe you were scared of crow pose as a concept. Once you rock crow pose you are going to build confidence, also an outcome state. You cannot feel confident before you take the actions that caused the revolution that then caused confidence. So I know a lot of people who died with a bunch of dreams and goals still imprisoned within them because they were waiting to feel confident enough to do it not knowing that doing the thing was going to create that state of confidence.
Blake: [00:17:26] That's actually how you get the confidence by doing the thing that's scary and doing it anyway.
Sadie: [00:17:31] And a Wellness Revolution or the community we talk about in yoga, let's say, or the healing communities, they are not a thing, they are an outcome. Out of all the single people all of us each taking our own actions from our centers or not. And that is going to create this living entity that we call the Wellness Revolution or in the community or the world, state of the world. And if we can each light ourselves up and stoke that fire even more fully, if we can ignite each one of us, then the whole, the collective, gets brighter instead of darker.
Blake: [00:18:05] Right.
Sadie: [00:18:05] But it's up to each of us to circle back inside, light that fire, and then dance in it. Take those actions.
Blake: [00:18:11] Right. The revolution is almost more of an internal revolution that out pictures in the external world.
Sadie: [00:18:16] Someone said the revolution is within. I know it. If my husband James was in this room right now he would tell me who it was. But I guess we could think more of Gandhi saying, "Be the change you wish to see in the world." Be it. A lot of people say, "Oh, be the change. Be the change." And then they go like, "Oh, I want to be more compassionate. I'm going to meditate on that. I'm going to put a crystal to my forehead and chant for the fiftieth time." Well get out in your community and go show compassion through action. Start a company, you know, or a yoga class that's free to the public once a week or by donation. Do something that's compassionate to those who wish to, you know, come and be your tribe around it. So do, do, do. Action. Action. That's my real calling and that's why I have two arrows tattooed on my arms, on the back, because it reminds me to move forward.
Blake: [00:19:03] Is that, okay, so if you were to raise both of your hands sort of up pointing at the sky. I'm seeing the arrows on your forearms pointing up to the sky and those are literally. Oh look at that. So when you do archer's pose, you literally have arrows on your forearms that are pointing in that direction.
Sadie: [00:19:18] Yes. They point in whichever direction I choose them to point. And that's what it reminds me if I'm going to release an arrow of intention, of action, I can decide which direction. Sometimes it's back at myself and then it hurts and it wounds me for a while and I have to recuperate in a negative way. And if it's a positive, out into the world action, in the direction I chose it may or may not work out the way I thought but it will always lead me in the right direction.
Blake: [00:19:44] It's one of the things I love about your persona because you have such a great aura about you and such a great look about you. So like I said part of the reason why I think you've been so successful on social media and selling your Yoga Shred HIIT and other videos is you just have such a compelling look about you and everything about your look says action. I mean even if you're seeing a still photo of Sadie Nardini, you're seeing this is a powerful woman who is in action who is taking action. Everything about your aura and your brand says that and I love that where you come from underneath is so heart-centered. Do people get that about you right off the bat? Are they sometimes surprised when maybe they just come out because they want their butt to look better, or you know they want their abs to look better and then they find out that you're actually coming from this place and how do you weave that into something like a Yoga Shred or a HIIT training?
Sadie: [00:20:32] Sure. Well I have my own style of yoga. I am an anatomy expert for years and years and I anatomy enhanced Vinyasa yoga flow movement to be safer and stronger from the earth up, using physics. I have a Yoga Shred which is a combination or fusion of better anatomy enhanced and usually yoga asana built HIIT, high-intensity interval training, poses fluidly mashed with yoga posture and flow so we get the benefits of slow and fast twitch muscle action and cardio actually because we don't get that in yoga classes, not the way that you can with HIIT. So I want people to be holistically fit. I do a lot of meditations and witchy business with the motivations and the crystals, stones, and fire that I always have and I'm in a rock band. We are making an album right now in L.A. Also I'm 47 years old.
Blake: [00:21:19] And she looks about 32.
[00:21:21] Oh thanks. I have a blonde mohawk and I DGAF and if you don't know what that means it's not safe for work but you can you can Google that if you like. I really don't these days I do and I don't and an answer to your question Blake I guess. How could you know you can't know a person by an image. I tend to do a lot more video, therefore, because the moment I start talking I think you can tell I'm here in service of you. I'm nourishing and nurturing, I'm very mothering in a way. But like Kali who is my girl, the powerful goddess that has two sides, I am not just Kalima, which is the nurturing mother who wants your best. In service of that, I'm also Kali Durga and I can be fierce. I can be straightforward and clear and I can empower women, especially, by leading by example what it means to be a free woman. What it means to do and be who I am and what I am and stand for that unapologetically even though I might not be the thing you would first think of as a spiritual practitioner or a yoga practitioner, fitness, or empowerment coach, whatever you want to call me, that's probably fine, a rock singer at 47, are you kidding me?
[00:22:28] And what I stand for is just having fun with your life and taking the actions that feel right to you and not listening to all the voices around you tell you why you shouldn't, especially the ones side.
Blake: [00:22:39] I love that you talked about being a powerful woman and unapologetically and I see you as somebody who's potentially a really great coach and mentor for young women leaders. And this is this is something you and I have talked about a little bit, the rise of the divine feminine and that really this is really the age of the woman that we're seeing starting to mature right now. And I think we both agree that we need more of that in our culture. There's been kind of classically maybe a little bit of an imbalance between the masculine authority figures being in control of things and maybe an imbalance with the divine feminine and now we're starting to see that rise up more and I like that you use the word unapologetic because in your experience do you see some women whether they're leaders or in the workplace maybe being a little bit apologetic for taking on a leadership role or for being in their power? How do you talk to those?
Sadie: [00:23:30] Absolutely. I think any woman listening to this right now is probably already in advanced shaking her head. Yes. Yes. Not just a little bit either, a ton. We get we get called the B-word any moment a woman steps up and tries to be clear, even non-emotionally. I've seen men get hyper-emotional, angry, aggressive, and people say, "Oh wow, he's just a powerful leader. He's, you know, there's somebody I'll hire for the Supreme Court right there." If a woman sat like that Brett Kavanaugh did and screamed and yelled and was red in the face. What would people have said about her? We already know. She's too emotional. She's unpredictable. She's unstable. She's hysterical. She's a B, big B. And the funny part is I just went through this last week I was talking to a company that wanted to work with me but they were not getting back to me and my company, they were demanding things but not replying so we could help them help themselves. And my whole team was frustrated and I finally got on a call and exactly as neutrally as this but clearly, I said, "This partnership is not going to work for me if you continue to be this one-sided about your communication style. Here's what I'm going to need from you in order to even consider it. Let me know within 48 hours if you can do that" and they said, "Whoa, no need to get emotional about it." I was talking exactly like that, I know my energy that my husband was in the room. He was shaking his head like you're not being emotional. First thing they said and I said, "Oh, I'm not being emotional. Just so you know I'm actually pretty neutral about this because I don't need this partnership. I wanted this partnership. And I don't have any real skin in the game so I'm just telling you what I will need in order to move forward. Thank you very much." And then James my husband called them back later that day, much more emotionally than I, let the other CEO know what he thought of that phone call and what he was going to need and he said the exact same things I did and asked for the exact same actionables. And guess what they did? They apologized to him. They said, “We're so sorry, sir. Let us get on that right away. We see your point. Thank you so much." Oh, just bent over backward. With me, I was told to not be emotional and they would see what they could do. It's epidemic.
Blake: [00:25:44] It is. But here's the counter to that, Sadie, that I think is really interesting is: it's one thing to have females in positions of leadership and in the boardroom, you know, when decisions are being made but if we're asking them to bring their masculine qualities to the table, is the feminine really being represented in that room? I've been at decision making tables with females and joked that thank God the female perspective is being represented because I'm at the table because the truth is we do tend to reward a lot of women for demonstrating their masculine qualities in the workplace. You're decisive. You're clear. Even being a little bit confrontational I think sometimes is seen as a good thing for a female leader because it's demonstrating those masculine qualities. So where's the balance between that and actually maybe we need your feminine quality in the workplace. Maybe we do need you to be emotional. Maybe we do need you to be a little bit more in the receptive mode in the listening motor, some of those qualities that we would classically think as feminine. And I don't think of this as male-female, by the way, necessarily it's masculine qualities and feminine qualities and the feminine qualities tend to be represented more by women but it can go both ways.
Sadie: [00:26:51] Yeah, that's exactly what I want to talk about now is that we're now talking about men and women, certainly. We're talking about masculine energies and feminine energies and the issue becomes a polarization and an imbalance of a negative feminine energy and a negative masculine energy, hypermasculine, hyper feminine. It seems like people think, okay, if I am in a position of power or leadership I have to go hypermasculine or no one's going to take me seriously and I'll be perceived as weak and all of, you know, stuff that is kind of correct about the hyper feminine side of everyone. When you start to become too passive, when you over give and exhaust yourself, when you nurture others and deplete yourself, nobody really respects that. When you get emotional and you are unstable without warning and you can't handle anything, like you cannot find your center or your clarity. You can't say, "Wow, I'm getting really angry right now and I'm going to go be angry over here." Instead of kicking down doors and punching walls in front of people that you're trying to lead, let's say, you know we vacillate between hyperfeminine emotionality and hypermasculine aggression and go-go-go to the point where you hurt yourself, you deplete yourself. I've seen women who are yoga studio leaders push themselves to the point, a breaking point, overly working out, overly teaching and they're exhausted, their lives are a mess, they're not nurturing, they're not in their feminine in balance. So they're negative polarities of those two also have positive counterparts.
[00:28:24] So the positive counterpart of a woman, a female energy let's say, can be that you have emotions, you honor and respect your emotional flow and you're very good at communicating about that and nurturing yourself through those moments and sometimes communicating with a feminine fierceness like Kali wood.
Blake: [00:28:42] A feminine fierceness. I like that.
Sadie: [00:28:42] Yes, there is such thing as a feminine power. I mean a mercurial, intuitive power but we forget it's not just our masculine energies that are powerful. Mother Nature is powerful.
Blake: [00:28:53] Right.
Sadie: [00:28:54] You know she can carve out canyons. She can destroy civilizations.
Blake: [00:28:59] We take it back to our childhood. I mean a powerful mother is much more frightening than a powerful father.
Sadie: [00:29:03] I believe that's true, yes.
Blake: [00:29:04] You know there's that mother voice where you do, you know it. So there is a feminine fierceness there.
Sadie: [00:29:10] Queens have been feared throughout centuries, you know, and it's not just because they act masculine. I think the wildness of a feminine and the creativity and the self-expression and the ability to go within and know one's self and center one's self in that Moon energy within, an anchor. That's very feminine but we think of it as oh well you're clear you must be masculine or you have created something, that must be masculine, or you have gone and taken an action or wow you really expressed your truth, those can also be very feminine and the positive masculinity, yes, is directing energy outward, is moving toward a goal unerringly and not letting other people stop you unless you have checked it and you think it's a good idea. Being assertive, assertive instead of aggressive. You can be very respectful, you can be very clear, you can set boundaries, but you don't have to be nice, overly nice. That's the downfall of many a leader and many a female and many of feminine energy is trying to oh I can't say that, I don't want to create conflict. I'm a nurturer. I know you know I never get angry. If anybody ever says that to you, please, back away slowly from the ticking time bomb. Being able to be that wild feminine and still direct yourself is as powerful as, I don't know, a flame thrower versus a crazy wildfire that's just burning down everything in its path.
Blake: [00:30:32] And do you think that's where we're headed? First of all, do you think there's an imbalance in our culture right now? And where do you think we're headed? What gives you hope about bringing more of this feminine energy into leadership and into our culture?
Sadie: [00:30:43] Yeah, I definitely think that it needs to come dance at center more because I see a lot of people being just pushovers and over passive and letting people run all over them and oh well, namaste, you know I understand everyone, I love everyone, so I guess I'm just going to deal with this toxic studio other owner for you know years and years or I'm going to be over giving, over giving.
[00:31:05] And then we get the people who are hyper-masculinized over here who are just going, going, going, going and then their bodies fall apart. They're unhappy. They've created so much. They forgot to be and nourish and nurture. So now they've got a bunch of external stuff manifested but they're so unhappy and they don't know themselves and they are sick. So coming back to that center place where we can be our wild, intuitive, feminine inside all of us. Be creative, be expressive and be re-nourishing and nurturing regularly and be creating amazing things from our truths and centers out into the world. What we're passionate about and not letting fear stick us back in the mud and the muck but to actually move forward and to be able to have these conversations even when you're in a position of leadership with your team to say I value both of these energies and we all have them. Here we dance. Hypermasculinity will not be rewarded here. I'm giving you time off. I'm giving you days off, I'm allowing you to work from home two days a week to get the goal down but also to nourish yourself. I want you to do this. I want your creative ideas. I want your ideas of how the workplace can be a more nurturing environment for everyone. Let's get rid of these fluorescent lights. I mean there's a conversation here about how to dance. And I think that's the evolution, not just feminine and like screw the men, you know.
Blake: [00:32:23] Right.
Sadie: [00:32:24] Men aren't the problem. The hyper-masculine energy in certain people across the board is the issue, the hyper-femininity where there is a pile of mush not Oh, I'm fearful or I'm a victim, oh I have a story, I'm going to hang on to that story forever and be unhappy and miserable because I'm too afraid, honestly, to move forward. Those are convenient excuses.
Blake: [00:32:45] Wow, that's powerful. Think I need a moment to just let that sit.
Sadie: [00:32:48] Let's have a sip of what might be wine, coffee, or water. We've got them all in here.
Blake: [00:32:52] Yes, let's have a sip of what might be wine, coffee, or water.
Sadie: [00:32:55] And if you know me you guessed correctly what that would be.
Blake: [00:32:58] And if you know what a go with guy I am you can guess what mine is as well.
Sadie: [00:33:02] Such a gentleman he would not let me drink alone during the podcast.
Blake: [00:33:07] That's right.
Sadie: [00:33:08] You know I had to fight through this with myself too. I was hypermasculine my whole life. Hypermasculine.
Blake: [00:33:13] That's interesting because it's not something you would normally think about as an issue with a woman, that you have a problem of hypermasculinity.
Sadie: [00:33:20] Oh I would speak my mind. I would be rude to people. I would be aggressive. If I had a glass in my hand and I just got upset for a moment because I was also in my hyperfeminine, I could not control my emotions at that time, I would just throw the glass against the wall, kick a door down, scream at someone, scream at someone who was trying to love me, hate myself, push myself to the breaking point, work out seven days a week. Go go, go, go. Never stop. And then the feminine applied itself in being too internal and you know in the dark, depression the eclipse of the moon inside was always happening. It had no seasons and I resisted the seasons that were trying to happen within me. I would not rest myself. I would not move forward. It was really destructive and I had it, I had a terrible eating disorder for 10 years. You know same years that I was dating the addict. What's inside is outside. And I was repressing myself and not eating but going, going, going. So everything was really out of balance and I realized I was actually going to die for this fight.
[00:34:18] I was going to stand on the hill of I can't let anyone love me because it's hurt before so I'm going to create a shield of hypermasculinity and I hate myself because somebody outside of me decided to abuse me and treat me badly. So now I'm going to, you know, with the abuser gone for decades now I'm going to become my own abuser and I'm going to just keep that cycle going between me and myself.
Blake: [00:34:39] And I would imagine you must have learned some of that as a child.
Sadie: [00:34:41] Absolutely. I mean I think we all carry things forward and truths and defenses, stories, many of which are true. It's not that they're not valid or true it's just are they worth shackling yourself to these for a lifetime or is it going to be a little bit more interesting to see what else there is?
Blake: [00:34:58] Well, we can reframe those things too. I mean, I heard someone say a while back a quote that I love which is, "It's never too late to have a great childhood." You know?
Sadie: [00:35:06] Agreed.
Blake: [00:35:07] People talk about and I hear people say, "Oh, you can't change the past." To which I reply, "Well that's ridiculous. Of course you can change the past. It's just some lights flickering on and off somewhere in the recesses of your brain. We don't even know where that memory of the past resides in you and that's all it is, is a memory, so you can choose to reframe that. You can choose to look at it a different way.".
Sadie: [00:35:26] Yes, it's not your reality. It was your reality but if you bring it here then it becomes your reality again and you can then refresh your story. And for me, even the simplest thing of moving into singing which has always been the most terrifying thing to me, never teaching yoga. I could teach 10,000 people right now and be in my power and feel great and walk calmly on stage and be relaxed. Great, but going into a recording studio and having my voice be the lead voice on a song I love terrified me. So for twenty years, I'm not kidding you, twenty years at least, I used one little story that happened in my past when my mom said one little thing. And I thought then I was going to be in competition with her own happiness because she's a singer, If I did it too. And I I took it forward day by day by day. I kept that story alive. I nourished that instead of my singing. And that was a very convenient excuse for me not to do the thing I was terrified of as I realized because even if it was true I'm using it to hold myself back and to actually shut my voice down. I refuse to do that any longer. And I'm 47 which is the oldest I've ever been. Freaking me out.
Blake: [00:36:38] The oldest I've ever been. I love the way you put that.
Sadie: [00:36:40] I hope I have some time left and I'm saying I've come a long way baby. And anyone can in this lifetime.
Blake: [00:36:46] One of the things I love about you, Sadie, is I sort of see you almost if you think about life in sort of three phases that some people go through and the first is the phase of your childhood where you have these impressions put upon you and you sort of come out of that with whatever you have or whatever you were exposed to when you were young and if there is dysfunction in your childhood like a lot of us were exposed to we go through a period of dysfunction in our life we sort of play that scenario out like you did living 10 years with an addict and then sometimes through grace or effort or whatever that magical thing is we can find our way out of that second phase and into a third phase it's really about self empowerment and maybe finding the balance of those feminine and masculine energies. What was that magic moment for you? I would imagine there's a lot of people out there that are struggling with that. How do I get from this place of dysfunction and darkness into the place of light, into the place of joy?
Sadie: [00:37:40] I think it's way more simple and instantaneous than we make it out to be. I could say, "Oh, it took me years and you know, doing this, doing that" and in part, okay, I did some things differently as I went but I still selfishly was hanging on to replaying old dramas and traumas to see if I could create a different outcome. All the while I was teaching the way out of this is to know yourself, realign, and have a functional relationship, a loving soul mate level relationship with yourself. When you do that you are free and it may not feel exactly free at first but it leads to freedom quite quickly. The thing is everyone knows that but 99% of people actually do not do that.
Blake: [00:38:21] So we frame this show in the context of the seven dimensions of wellness. There's the physical, emotional, spiritual, intellectual, social, environmental, occupational. So where does one start when it comes to that relationship with yourself if that's really the key?
Sadie: [00:38:36] Where I would start is to get out your journal, or whatever you like to write on, get out a pen, write down those seven areas of the Wellness Revolution. Just list them. One on top of each page and start to write with yourself and question each one of those areas and say, "Am I in a functional or dysfunctional relationship with myself around this area right now?" You'll know if you're in a dysfunctional relationship because the outside of it will not be making you very happy, satisfied empowered, passionate, and you can say wow I don't really like my job or I would like my job but this crazy studio owner I have to deal with everyday is bringing me down or I liked it before but now it's feeling misaligned with me. I want you to write on what the outside feels like and then start to look at the same aspect within yourself, okay, the outer work is not going great. What's your inner work doing? Are you spending time with yourself every day to think and write about where you are? What your truth is that day, what you need, what your rhythms are. Are you on your rhythms or off your rhythms? Are you giving yourself what you need as much as you can? Are you working for you or against you? In what ways? Are you being passionate about your actions and the work that you're doing? Is it life's work? Is it soul's work? Or is it work to just get a pension some day and hopefully have enough money to survive, you're going to work for 40 years doing something you hate so that you have maybe a few years with some money. What's going on? What about the emotional? How are you handling your emotions? Are you allowing them? Are you free flowing with them? Are you clear about them or are you respectful with them? Do you have people around you shutting you down? Do you do you work on your fear that arises around things that may have hurt you before? How is your mental state? How is your physical body? Are you doing your consistent workouts? Are you fueling yourself lovingly and balanced because everybody knows I like tacos and fries but I eat a lot of greens and I exercise almost every other day. A little Yoga Shred goes a long way people, so... I write on these things and say, am I in a functional or dysfunctional relationship with myself in these ways? And then what's happening outside?
Sadie: [00:40:47] Write on it.Your inner wisdom will tell you if you get out of your own way and not say well I would like to move from this psychotic studio owner situation I got myself into but she's been abused as a child and I understand where she's coming from and Sundays are good and you know I'm making money and I'm I'm teaching yoga which is what I love. Sorry, that's not good enough. Not for me. I want you to move into your best alignment. I want you to feel like you love waking up. And what would that have to look like? What would that day look like? What would you be doing after the two week vacation you want to have, after that. When your life's work comes back, what would that look like? So I think it's really just taking a moment with yourself, not just the kids, not just the soccer game, not just all the classes, 15 classes you're teaching, not just the stuff you have to get done externally but now really an internal journey and take that time every day. So I take time with myself every single day.
Blake: [00:41:41] There's really an element of self-management around this, isn't there? And I talk to Seth Streeter and we talked about the dimensions of wealth and we talked about the dimensions of wellness. But someone's got to be managing those. Who's managing my life? Who's managing those dimensions? And what I hear you saying, and it seems to me that you're someone who's really good at self-management. So if there's one piece, that's sort of a key piece, who's managing your life? And it reminds me of when we give business advice to wellness business owners. We always advocate that you spend some time working on your business and not in your business because most entrepreneurs will be there with their sleeves rolled up, working in their business day in and day out but they need to take some time and take a breath and step back and work on their business. You know, what's the bigger picture here? What's really going on? Are things working or not working. And that's what I hear you saying is that it's important to take time to work on your life and not in your life.
Sadie: [00:42:31] Yes, most people run around like low-level workers for the CEOs of their own life, who they have abdicated that responsibility to a bunch of random people out there. Maybe maybe this guy you just met, maybe your partner, maybe your other boss out here, maybe someone who's more aggressive than you are. A lot of other people are dictating your life to you. You are the CEO of your life. Well actually the full-time job isn't just through business, isn't just what you're doing out in the world. It's you being full, knowing yourself, loving yourself, spending time with yourself, repowering yourself--like keeping that battery full and actually overflowing so you give with the overflow, not from a 1/8 full battery. And now we're depleting it to almost nothing and then you kinda build it up a little. What would it take for you to build it up? So, I am very capable now. I was horrible at this earlier in my life so I can tell you one can change. I compartmentalize my days based on what I know I'm going to need and then what my business is going to need. Inner business, my business. I'm the CEO of my inner business. Luckily I'm also the CEO of my outer business. But I have things happening this all the time and you know work that needs to be done but I'm not just going to go-go-go at that until I'm depleted and I'm resentful and exhausted and looking around like who am I? Where am I? So compartmentalization is one of the biggest keys to any successful business but also to any successful life. And I want to see everybody get back into that leadership position for their full-time job which is being who they need to be.
Blake: [00:44:06] Yes.
Sadie: [00:44:06] What does that look like?
Blake: [00:44:07] And you're certainly a master at that. You've created quite an amazing life for yourself, I have to say. And you get to do yoga and sell videos to people that enhance their lives, that make people's lives better, and make a good living doing that. What does that feel like?
Sadie: [00:44:22] It feels like I'm right where I'm supposed to be.
Blake: [00:44:24] And how does that feel?
Sadie: [00:44:25] As incredible as standing in a glass of champagne and being able to breathe. Every day I wake up and I first the first thing I think is it's way too early I'm not I'm not going to be able to get out of this bed and then I do it and then I'm very excited about the rest of the day and what I know is I will get up, I will probably do a short exercise with my husband, that works better than hours of exercise, so I've compartmentalized and contracted the amount of exercise that I need to do to about sixteen minutes. And that will give me all the fitness benefits of two to four hours at the gym. Then I stretch out with some yoga.
Blake: [00:45:03] What do you call that and do you sell that?
Sadie: [00:45:05] Yeah, that's called the Yoga Shred.
Blake: [00:45:06] The Yoga Shred. The sixteen minutes?
Sadie: [00:45:08] Oh yeah. Well all of my workouts are online. Usually there are about twenty, twenty-five minutes because I've got the sixteen minutes of high-intensity interval training in there, depending on the workout, maybe twelve minutes of it maybe sixteen, it all works really well. But if you just want to extract and do three or four four-minute Yoga Shreds those are hit moves but they're fresh with me. That's what I do most most weeks and I've never looked or felt better.
[00:45:30] And you know how old I am and everybody else does.
Blake: [00:45:32] I know and I'm impressed that you just come out and say your age. I tend to hide my age from people.
Sadie: [00:45:40] Well I did too and especially as a woman. I mean I see that there's something in that for men as well and I'm not discounting the actual male experience around this. I do know that I was afraid for many years to share my age because I thought oh no one wants to learn yoga and fitness from some old lady is what I felt like. When these 20-year-olds are all bouncing around doing these crazy things and then I asked most of my audience, who is between 35 to 55, what they wanted and they said I don't want to learn from some young kid; they're not in my age group. I need someone who is my age to tell me things about our time in life and it's just really nice. Now not discounting the 20 year old hardbodies, that's necessary for a certain population too. And it's inspiring and that's great. But I have a great, strong body that I have to be careful of my joints especially someone who broke her neck and was paralyzed for two years. I don't have the mobility that a lot of people have in my spine so I'm always talking about hey you can go farther than this do it if you need to take it down a notch, do this and it's just a wonderful, inclusive thing. But I will kick your ass. To this day, I'm still doing it, honey, like come with me, 25-35 minutes, you'll be good for two days. But that said, I think we each need to just come back into that place of whatever empowers us is going to empower our tribe is going to help empower the collective.
Blake: [00:47:02] Yeah, yeah.
Sadie: [00:47:03] So I can only speak for myself with all this.
Blake: [00:47:05] I love that. And you and I tend to go broad, I think, when we're talking about this Wellness Revolution. And I think something that we feel like there's a sort of brotherhood-sisterhood between us is that there is a movement afoot to really shift the collective to a healthier, happier, more joyful, more connected species. You know, a species that thrives more on being happy and being connected and a little bit less on conflict and the things that we've seen in the past. What's going to get us there?
Sadie: [00:47:32] Well I saw a great T-shirt in the East Village of New York City when I used to live there. I lived there for many years and this was my favorite T-shirt. It said, "Quit Your Bitchin and Start a Revolution." This applies to all of us. Each one of you listening, if you took some of the things you were doing unnecessarily with your energy, like I spent 20 minutes this morning on Twitter responding to some person that I didn't agree with, who's never going to see it and never gonna care, instead of doing my own workout. I think the revolution is in reframing, reorienting yourself in structuring your days to serve you instead of just to serve everything else. And looking at the places you leak your energy, hugging that in, and then redirecting it toward what really matters and is actually taking the action step this week, today. Don't even wait. Today, when you hear this podcast, sit down with yourself and say what is one thing I could change this coming week, more in service of me, my health, my fullness, my effectiveness, my creations, my expressions? What's one thing I could shift? Small, tiny, large, huge, fine. Do it. Do it this week. Do one next week. Do ten if you can. But let's start with one, baby steps. But then huge leaps. Why not? Why not one day you just quit your job because you know that you have other money that can be coming in from this other thing or you just sold your house you have a ton of money but you're still working at the job you hate. Let's just do something huge, mindful, logical, and strategic, but also huge as well as these tiny little baby steps that can take you a lifetime to get one thing done.
[00:49:05] What is that for you? Let's just get back to the business of being ourselves and take the discomfort that comes along with doing that until the confidence arises, until the powering up happens, which won't happen too long from now, if you start now. Otherwise, we're going to be in the same place for another year. Next year, you'll be listening to the podcast and going, "Okay, I'm going to do it". And then you won't. Let's just skip past all that B.S. and just retake that teacher seat in your own life, the leader seat, the CEO, the creator, the creatrix, the artist, the wilding, the mother, the fierce warrior. Let's start to move forward into this revolution together. Because why the hell not?
Blake: [00:49:48] Sadie, it's such a pleasure being in this revolution, shoulder to shoulder, with you. I love being on your side and on your team. I certainly don't want to be on the other team.
Sadie: [00:49:57] No, you probably don't.
Blake: [00:49:59] Thank you for spending the time with me. Such a pleasure always hanging out with you. I hope we have more time together and get more time to talk and follow this up. I know we could probably fill ten podcasts up with everything...
Sadie: [00:50:10] Of course.
Blake: [00:50:10] ...that you and I have to talk about.
Sadie: [00:50:12] Thank you so much. I'm honored.
Blake: [00:50:14] Yeah. Thank you so much. It's really, really, truly a pleasure being on this journey with you.
Sadie: [00:50:18] Namaste.
Blake: [00:50:18] So now that you've heard my conversation with Sadie Nardini, here's the part where I want to make this personal. Sadie said this today and it bears repeating because it's her call to action to you. She said, "All of us each, taking our own actions from our center, or not, that is going to create this living entity that we call the Wellness Revolution. If we can each light ourselves up and stoke that fire even more fully, if we can ignite, each one of us, then the whole, the collective gets brighter, instead of darker. But it's up to each of us to circle back inside, light that fire, and then dance in it. Take those actions." She said. So with that context here are the three questions inspired by today's conversation that I have for you. Number one: Are you a Wellness Revolutionary? Is there something in you that feels called to add fuel to the notion of improving, not just your own health and happiness, but the health and happiness of others in the world? Are you a wellness revolutionary? If the answer is yes. Well, I love how Sadie said this, "Fighting against something is just so much harder than fighting for something you believe in." So question number two: What do you believe in? What do you believe in? What's your why is another way to put that. And my third question to you is around action. Sadie said to just begin is the real revolution; action is the revolution. So question three: What is the next conscious action you are going to take? Big or small, what is the next action? Because at the end of the day this really is about you. So write these three questions down. I will repeat them here and I would love it if you would send me an email with your answers. You can email [email protected] and answer these three questions: 1. Are you a Wellness Revolutionary? 2. What do you believe in and what is your why? And 3. What's the next action you are going to take to move your life forward in this regard? Again I would love it if you would email me your answers to [email protected]. Of course one action you might take is to go to sadienardini.com to learn more about Sadie, access her Yoga Shred, optimized 20-minute workouts and other workout videos, meditations, teacher training. You can join her membership club, "The Fit and Fierce Club"; you can buy her "Rock Who You Are" clothing, even learn how to build a social media empire like she's done. So much to tune into with this woman. So go check it out: sadienardini.com.
[00:53:24] A huge thank you to Sadie Nardini for taking the time to be with me today and for being a true leader and compatriot in the Wellness Revolution.
[00:53:32] Be sure to subscribe to the podcast so you never miss an episode. Do me a favor, please rate and review us so other revolutionaries can find and join us on this journey. And if you liked this episode, I will bet you probably know someone else who might enjoy it. So please share it. Pass it on.
[00:53:51] Thanks to Jonny Lang for his song "Make it Move" and to the podcast team: Shelley Northrop, Meredith Simmons, and Lauren McAlister. And last but not least, I'd like to thank my amazing producer Brent Pierson. Of course, I appreciate you taking the time to listen. I'm Blake Beltram. The revolution is on. I'll see you next time.
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